Some of these paintings have taken as much as 10 years to complete. Using limiting rules to building these paintings mostly lines dots and dashes. A pattern will either be contained within the canvas or continue off the canvas. If one were to see these paintings being made they would see either a portion of a pattern across the entire stretch of the canvas or a whole complete pattern. Those are the underpaintings some of these painting have as many as 50 patterns before shapes formulate on the surface. Pattern over pattern they build up. Adding and adding until something formulates. In some the process of deduction occurs where the layers are stripped away unfolding the history of that painting. The material is encaustic oil thread papers suspension waxes and sometimes bugs.